Personally, between the 84 and 184, I definitely prefer the 84 for my useages. not a favourite mic of mine . I would also strongly consider the Beesnees LuLus. the freq. Then I'll record with Sennheiser MKH8040, AT4033 and CM3. Nicer top end, and generally, then the KM184. I posted clips above of 84's, 184's, modded 184's and modded 012's if anyone actually cares to listen instead of pontificate. they can be a tad bright for some sources when used close, but are excellent on acoustic guitar, piano, and many other acoustic instruments, and they make a very nice main ORTF pair for small ensemble recording. KM 184 Authentic, vibrant, transparent: The … Maybe have a look at some ribbons. a pair of used km84s is in the same price range and compared to the 184 actually sounds decent. the mercenary audio km69 is supposed to replicate that sound. I would definately consider Gefell's before the 184's. Help: cheap alternative at Neumann KM184. capsules with it. Beyer MC930 for sure. Even on vocals. A true Neumann at an affordable price. Do you really think you could buy 2 separate km84s and they would be as closely matched as something new?? It's never made much sense to me, particularly in recording popular music, because I feel the 184 is a real workhorse. lift is higher up; not in the "punch" range but in the "air" range). Superb mic for the money. The MC930 has a different magic--more open, less in the mid, more in the lows and highs. The MC930 has a different magic--more open, less in the mid, more in the lows and highs. Hey there! the freq. Vintage km84s are way over priced!! The MC 930 is not bright, but brilliant (i.e. It's not that the 184 is a horrible mic. i didnt expect it to be any good. I have owned both. LOOOVE my new Beyer MC930's (clip included)! They appear to be a good KM84 clone. and record an acoustic guitar in stereo and it's amazing. Consider a Gefell MV692 with the M70 capsule. I feel the mids are very clear and defined, the top can be a bright on a few sources, but its a great work horse mic for me. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Peluso cemc6...a great deal at the price and a pair will only set you back a little under $600. Stage feeling in the studio. I love the AKG 451 that I have. I love the AKG 451 that I have. An amazing microphone, depth and vibe, great on acoustic guitar. +1 on the Shure KSM137. i have owned pairs of gefell m300s, dpa 4011s, schoeps cmc64s, km140s, km184s, beyer mc930s, and imo, the km184s are as musical as anythng i have used. When you have two NT55's put them in card. Close to a KM84. The KM184 has this nice thick mid. Thank you guys, it seems to be very good the Beyer MC 930. This way you might save yourself a lot of pesetas. Beyer MC930s are much better. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. i used the m audio pulsar II recently, and was impressed actually. Also look into the Gefell M300, pretty much the same design. Hello, I would like to buy a good mike for to record my nylon-flamenco-spanish guitar heh Well, I have a decent valve preamp (avalon 737) and converter (UA2192) and I would produce a sweet ambient music. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. but a great bread and butter utility. Nice, bright and slightly round. The 4051a is much higher end than a 4040, and still not that expensive. You need an account to post a reply. Of the mics just mentioned, you could make a good case for either the KM184 or MC930 but if budget comes into play, there's no need to anguish yourself further. KMS 104/ 104 Plus/ 105 Studio sound on stage. Our bestseller. I have to agree with the nod to the Beyer MC930. Hard to find though. here is a quite beautiful sampling of the MC930. It's a fine, utilitarian SDC, albeit with a tendency towards stridency in the upper register if not placed with care. the older km84s are also very nice but have been pretty much priced out of all reasonableness - expect to pay $2500-3000 for a nice pair of km84s - and there are better mics out there for that kind of money (again, IMO). Big sound in a small package. ...there is this strange "rule of thumb" around these parts that...the old product is *always* better than the new... More Mic Madness - cHapTeR 4 - What's up with KM84's? Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. I feel the mids are very clear and defined, the top can be a bright on a few sources, but its a great work horse mic for me. I will try to record my classic guitar in a couple of days when I have put on new strings. btw, in the gear shootout forum is this thread: Buy km 184 and dont look back . Very good, regardless of (low) price. i don't find it too bright at all, at least not on my acoustic. Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio. Ribbons really work when you want a very natural tone and can take eq very nicely. Haven't ever used the Cascade Fathead ribbons (hard to get in UK) but they have got some very good reviews and are dirt cheap (about $175 each). A quick search on KM 184 will reveal the mic to be historically unpopular on Gearslutz. To buttress my previous post: I don't harbor hatred for the KM-184, and I do think it gets a bum rap on this forum. The downside of the KM184 is it can be overly bright. I think you'll find that the mc930 will be more useful than the at4040. Josephson C42 is a great mic as a alternative to a neumann, Thank you guys, I prefer one good mike intead of two cheap. Remote Possibilities in Location Recording & Production, https://www.gearslutz.com/board/3657092-post1.html, Pictures Of Mic'ed Up Drum Kits In The Studio, Any new mic sounding similar to vintage km84, Already have an account? TLM 103 The modern classic for vocals, spoken word, and more. I like the KM184, especially for acoustic guitars. lift is higher up; not in the "punch" range but in the "air" range). Of the mics just mentioned, you could make a good case for either the KM184 or MC930 but if budget comes into play, there's no need to anguish yourself further. The 692/M70 combo is sweet and flexable. Neumann KM184, Charter Oak M900, Josephson c42, AKG c 391 b, Audio-Technica 4021, Rode NTS, Audio-Technica 4051, DPA 4011, AKG c 1000 s, Audio-Technica ATM450, Peluso CEMC6, Schoeps CMC64 Shure SM81 Share Reply Quote. It's a great little mic. Milab pencil mics are really good, many people rate them above the KM84. Just read up on it and you'll see what i mean. 14th June 2010 | … The omni gives more of a live sound...open and detailed. I read on here that Bruce Swedien used it for multiple applications. Of the mics I have ready access to: the NT5 is decent but can be thin and sterile. Rode NT55; what makes this mic special is you can use omni or card. I don't know if anybody mentionned the rode nt-5, they are cheapest copy of the km184, but I've compare the too, and they are very nice for the price. The closest thing to a KM184 would be a broken mic. They are so good and so cheap so I say buy one or two and use them for a while and then compare them to other mics. Check out Line Audio CM3. Všechny informace o produktu NEUMANN KM184 Stereo, porovnání cen z internetových obchodů, hodnocení a recenze NEUMANN KM184 Stereo. Classical guitars can sound absolutely beautiful with ribbons if the guitar itself sounds nice along with the room. The Josephson C42 is nice but doesn't have the velvety texture of the KM184. I was in the same position , flerting with Peluso cemc6 ... but ended up buying an used pair of km184 .... just got my km184 and am very happy with it. If I were in the market for sdcs I would try. Just that the 84 is so great.....and it's hard to compete. I recently used my at4040 on a nylon stringed guitar, and through it turned out really great, though i have not used any of the other mics you mentioned! The downside of the KM184 is it can be overly bright. The MC 930 is not bright, but brilliant (i.e. The Neumann Series 180 consists of three members with different pickup patterns: KM 183 (omni), KM 184 (cardioid), and KM 185 (hypercardioid), thus covering the majority of stage and studio applications. Hey there!