This would eradicate the Earth and your duo from a lot farther. However in this case Superman will be able to see his opponent slower than lightning. Then in the tournament of power goku only needed ssg which is 50x–500x weaker than ssg to beat dyspo who was giving hit trouble. I once again believe that Wonder Woman can physically over power either member of your team and will once again touch on some of her of miscellaneous capabilities later down the line. Let me start with saying that this will by no means be an easy victory for either party. Another midtier feat. Keyword there being the Sun. Let's also address Wonder Woman's striking capabilities. And yet a wave of Vegeta's hand had him on the ground. Back during the Namek Arc, Vegeta took an absolutely brutal beating from Zarbon but managed to keep fighting till the very end. Our galaxy has between 100 billion and 700 billion stars. How much faster? However, I'm going to have to disagree with you there pretty strongly. In the end, I will side with team DBZ more often than not, but it's close. what are your guys opinion on omniversal battlefield? Then you have to consider all of the matter in the universe would fit into about 1 billion cubic light years, or a cube that's approximately 1,000 light years on each side. Rick Sanchez's answer to Can One Punch Man defeat Goku or Superman? Nothing significant though so i would estimate maybe a 5x boost. That alone is already a tough feat to match considering Beerus sh!tstomped Ultimate Gohan and Majin Buu at the same time, as well as Gotenks and the rest of the Z Fighters using a pair of chopsticks and pressure points, yet he praised Vegeta's skill. He can injure Supes and eventually bring him down. However goku and beerus were both holding back significantly as this was early on in the fight. If Superman and Piccolo were at equal power levels, Clark would get slaughtered, let alone if Piccolo maintained his strength to knock Clark back by waving his hand or break his bones by blowing rocks, as he was against Goku. And I can not stress enough the monumental, astronomical difference in power between Freeza arc/Androids arc base Goku, and Super Saiyan God Goku, or even Super Saiyan 3. The Old Kai's power was not enough to scratch the Katchin, meaning the block was stronger than a planet and therefore equally as dense. If not... well, that really wouldn't say anything for her level of skill. They exchange blows, throw ki blasts, get a bit of dialogue, Vegeta takes a minute to recover, throw more punches, etc etc all in the span of a single heartbeat. I can bust out the scans of Kid Goku outrunning Tien's solar flare during the 22nd Budokai. I also don't see how casually punching a nuke unscathed is Mid tier. (I'll insert these feats later.). I know Clark has been trained by Wildcat, Batman, and Wonder Woman, but Goku was trained by gods. As impressive as the showings are, in this match that would result in Superman's loss, so they're really not entirely applicable. It's two decades of training and three transformations; given this level of skill and speed, Goku should do a good job at parrying Superman while skillfully landing his own blows in precision weak points. The blasts can travel across the planet almost immediately and towards the end of the video you see them going out into space; pretty dang fast, and this is base Super Buu. Now can you confirm the blast shot at all those people were the same shot at Goku and Vegeta. The best part is, neither Superman nor Wonder Woman have any counter for this either. This is Gogeta46power's 7th battle in season 3. Katchin is the hardest metal in the universe and therefore would be extremely dense as well. The training is mostly glossed over in the manga, but in the anime Popo sends Goku to learn calmness and concentration from a fisherman by feeling the movements in a lake, teaches him how to empty his mind and focus by sparring against an emotionless clay version of himself, has him train his senses by playing hide n' seek blindfolded, and disciplines his mind with constant meditation. So while I agree that Goku (And only Goku as you haven't provided anything to suggest that Vegeta can harm my duo physically.) This is hardly a speed feat, she's clearly overpowering the League, nobody is using any speed. Flowey: And of course Dragon Ball and DC aren't immune to this. I also doubt my team will just sit there and let Vegeta charge up such an attack. He was ONLY knocked out by the collision of two planets yet Frezia has better durability by surviving the destruction while weakened. And numerous instances of tanking planetary-level attacks. Later Goku uses the Kaio-Ken x3 and he and Vegeta have a fight that lasts the majority of the chapter. Totally disintegrates Namek's core while, according to Goku, subconsciously holding back from fear. As I said. New videos every week! Like this. Now in the u6 vs u7 arc goku needed kaioken x10 to beat hit. The vacuum of space provides zero resistance to an object in motion, and considering they weren't very far from the moon anyway, I'm going to have to say a punch like this won't seriously affect Vegeta. Heck, Superman has even seen light in slow motion. the only ones that i agree with are asura from asura wrath tier and soul king, Since What Null speed can be comparabled here? Multiple bones were broken, he got blown up, and the force of their punches created shockwaves that shattered a small mountain miles away. As far as I'm concerned there just lasers and even Aquaman has blocked and avoided those. Now some have argued that he absorbed ssg into his super saiyan form but regardless base goku was stronger than ssg b.o.g. First off, I'm going to go ahead and say fair points of the picosecond thing. I can't really read the scan, but regardless Superman's travel speed has never been his reaction speed. It's the Super Saiyan Warriors of Dragon Ball going head-to-head with DC's Man of Steel and Princess of the Amazons. Considering that the fist clashes were going to destroy the supreme kais also puts this feat actually higher than that potentially as the supreme kai world exists outside of the mortal universe. Can Goku or Vegeta move faster than lightning? How about Super Buu firing billions of ki blasts that travel all the way around the world killing every single human being on the planet with perfect accuracy in a matter of minutes? Heat vision can't possibly match that power, and Wonder Woman has no energy projection at all. can harm my team physically, he'll still have a hard time doing so. (Now can we move on from Frezia and actually discuss the characters in the debate? He was borderline bloodlusted, whereas his morals are going to be a major hinderance in this scenario. @the_man_with_questions: As an avid fan of Dragon Ball AND the man of steel, I've wanted to throw my hat into the Goku vs Superman ring for a long time now, and adding in Vegeta and Wonder Woman is just a big bonus. And like I said once again. As you can see here, Goku states that the Kaio-Ken amplifies the users power, but only for the span of a single heartbeat. Anime goku absorbed this level of power into his base form. Sorry about the triple post. My computer was lagging and badly. Wonder Woman was easily capable of withstanding the temperatures of the Suns surface. I also don't see your point when you say "That's really a Saiyan Saga feat". Then we obviously know the laser is faster than light. Zarbon ended up piledriving Vegeta into the dirt headfirst all the way from the lower atmosphere, with the resulting crash forming a large canyon. @the_man_with_questions As an avid fan of Dragon Ball AND the man of steel, I've wanted to throw my hat into the Goku vs Superman ring for a long time now, and adding in Vegeta and Wonder Woman is just a big bonus. Just faster. I've witnessed more than a few Goku vs Superman debates, and from those I feel like I have a good idea of each character's strengths, weaknesses, and more or less how the battle would play out, and in my opinion I just feel that Goku has the overall advantage. Such confidence! To recap, Vegeta has more than enough strength to potentially bring Wonder Woman down, and given his crazy durability even by DBZ standards, he will surely live up to that potential. The braces should be more than enough to block vegeta's beams. It's a match to go down in legends, who will come out on top in this Earth-shattering power brawl of galactic proportions? (Which won't happen.).